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		<title>By: Niles Paterson</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-24198</link>
		<dc:creator>Niles Paterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the new pharmacy GP health system came about a little history....
 There was significant disengagement between clinicians and dhbmanagers.
So in 2009 the National Government commissioned “In Good Hands” from a Task Force Group on Clinical Leadership.
After spending money on their task force the government sought to develop a new partnership with the health professions.
Recommendation did not involve  trying to engage  the managers who were found to be unresponsive and rude in many cases. 
One may only guess at how well  the patients are doing  with the new financial incentives for the clinicians to act like dhb managers/mercenaries.
Its mind boggling stupidity, behavioural problems were found in the managers and the ministry solution was that the drs should behave like the managers -bling. 
So now everyone is out for money, and no ones focus is on the patients needs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the new pharmacy GP health system came about a little history&#8230;.<br />
 There was significant disengagement between clinicians and dhbmanagers.<br />
So in 2009 the National Government commissioned “In Good Hands” from a Task Force Group on Clinical Leadership.<br />
After spending money on their task force the government sought to develop a new partnership with the health professions.<br />
Recommendation did not involve  trying to engage  the managers who were found to be unresponsive and rude in many cases.<br />
One may only guess at how well  the patients are doing  with the new financial incentives for the clinicians to act like dhb managers/mercenaries.<br />
Its mind boggling stupidity, behavioural problems were found in the managers and the ministry solution was that the drs should behave like the managers -bling.<br />
So now everyone is out for money, and no ones focus is on the patients needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-23483</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The health system currently is like a car we bought that we have to push everywhere.
But we (both patients and doctors) are told to keep pushing it around increasing its bulk.  its an institution  we created with the idea of making health care accessible and more affordable for all, yet as time past it become destructive and  it  fails us  on every count. 
We have a doctor shortage yet the institution hires them and funds them to solely work on changing their reported numbers and statistics, hiding their failures repeatedly.
I can&#039;t even read the health ministers press releases anymore, they are  so disgusting and untruthful.
I don&#039;t know what changing the delivery of medical care to pharmacists care will do, but for those using one of the 200 drs that should&#039;ve been struck off I can&#039;t imagine it will be any more tramatic/fatal?
Do note that it is only woman who have been told to get  pharmacy  medical treatment  of their bladder health problems and not men. I guess men&#039;s bladder health is  more important to the govt, they can get medical care but woman shouldn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The health system currently is like a car we bought that we have to push everywhere.<br />
But we (both patients and doctors) are told to keep pushing it around increasing its bulk.  its an institution  we created with the idea of making health care accessible and more affordable for all, yet as time past it become destructive and  it  fails us  on every count.<br />
We have a doctor shortage yet the institution hires them and funds them to solely work on changing their reported numbers and statistics, hiding their failures repeatedly.<br />
I can&#8217;t even read the health ministers press releases anymore, they are  so disgusting and untruthful.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what changing the delivery of medical care to pharmacists care will do, but for those using one of the 200 drs that should&#8217;ve been struck off I can&#8217;t imagine it will be any more tramatic/fatal?<br />
Do note that it is only woman who have been told to get  pharmacy  medical treatment  of their bladder health problems and not men. I guess men&#8217;s bladder health is  more important to the govt, they can get medical care but woman shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Danyl Strype</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-23297</link>
		<dc:creator>Danyl Strype</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Gordon for asking these questions, and revealing that even with multiple layers of health bureaucracy (Ministry, DHB, PHO etc), the system is unable to collect (let alone make public) basic statistics about the health of the health system. However, as I&#039;m sure you&#039;re aware, this article barely scratches the surface of the health care problems in this country.

Those who do manage to get a consultation with a GP seldom get assessed as a whole person, seeking professional advice on how to increase their health. Instead they are treated as a faulty biochemical machine, and their symptoms either masked with pharmaceuticals (eg steroid cream to suppress eczema) or dealt with by swapping out parts (surgery).

When was the last time a GP asked any piercing questions about your diet? Your housing situation? Your your state of mind? Your home/ work life balance? Your connectedness to extended family and neighbourhood? Your exercise habits? Potential environmental influences on your health? Yet there is peer-reviewed medical research that shows all these can be causative or aggravating factors in illnesses that are routinely written off as a simple body failure, and treated with drugs or surgery.

Perhaps the catastrophic lack of primary care you describe could be addressed by allowing people subsidized primary care visits to the healing practitioner of their choice, whether that be an allopathic (drugs and surgery) doctor, naturopath, chiropracter, herbalist, acupuncturist etc? Obviously to be eligible for subsidies the practitioner would need to hold a recognised qualification in their field, including the same studies in things like anatomy and physiology that allopathic doctors learn in basic medical training, and ideally significantly better studies in nutrition and environmental medicine than allopathic doctors currently receive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gordon for asking these questions, and revealing that even with multiple layers of health bureaucracy (Ministry, DHB, PHO etc), the system is unable to collect (let alone make public) basic statistics about the health of the health system. However, as I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re aware, this article barely scratches the surface of the health care problems in this country.</p>
<p>Those who do manage to get a consultation with a GP seldom get assessed as a whole person, seeking professional advice on how to increase their health. Instead they are treated as a faulty biochemical machine, and their symptoms either masked with pharmaceuticals (eg steroid cream to suppress eczema) or dealt with by swapping out parts (surgery).</p>
<p>When was the last time a GP asked any piercing questions about your diet? Your housing situation? Your your state of mind? Your home/ work life balance? Your connectedness to extended family and neighbourhood? Your exercise habits? Potential environmental influences on your health? Yet there is peer-reviewed medical research that shows all these can be causative or aggravating factors in illnesses that are routinely written off as a simple body failure, and treated with drugs or surgery.</p>
<p>Perhaps the catastrophic lack of primary care you describe could be addressed by allowing people subsidized primary care visits to the healing practitioner of their choice, whether that be an allopathic (drugs and surgery) doctor, naturopath, chiropracter, herbalist, acupuncturist etc? Obviously to be eligible for subsidies the practitioner would need to hold a recognised qualification in their field, including the same studies in things like anatomy and physiology that allopathic doctors learn in basic medical training, and ideally significantly better studies in nutrition and environmental medicine than allopathic doctors currently receive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-23287</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...happy with the  stated role of a doctor as &quot;custodian for the health dollars&quot; ?
 You know damn well that is not true, its a way   to ask a dr to  deny medical treatment/care to his/her patient so as to provide more for the ongoing top level corp parasites in the health system. 
At some point either fully accept a complete role change start by looking at the books OR remember who you are and start to resist the destructive  unhealthy trends. 
You know that with parasites in the body unless they are removed the body remains ill, this is just that, a case of big hook worms in the health system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;happy with the  stated role of a doctor as &#8220;custodian for the health dollars&#8221; ?<br />
 You know damn well that is not true, its a way   to ask a dr to  deny medical treatment/care to his/her patient so as to provide more for the ongoing top level corp parasites in the health system.<br />
At some point either fully accept a complete role change start by looking at the books OR remember who you are and start to resist the destructive  unhealthy trends.<br />
You know that with parasites in the body unless they are removed the body remains ill, this is just that, a case of big hook worms in the health system.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-23286</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...happy with the  stated role of a doctor as &quot;custodian for the health dollars&quot; ?
 You know damn well that is not true, its  to ask a dr to  denying medical treatment/care to his/her patient so as to provide more for the ongoing top level corp parasites in the health system. 
At some point either fully accept a complete role change start by looking at the books OR remember who you are and start to resist the destructive  unhealthy trends. 
You know that with parasites in the body unless they are removed the body remains ill, this is just that, a case of big hook worms in the health system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;happy with the  stated role of a doctor as &#8220;custodian for the health dollars&#8221; ?<br />
 You know damn well that is not true, its  to ask a dr to  denying medical treatment/care to his/her patient so as to provide more for the ongoing top level corp parasites in the health system.<br />
At some point either fully accept a complete role change start by looking at the books OR remember who you are and start to resist the destructive  unhealthy trends.<br />
You know that with parasites in the body unless they are removed the body remains ill, this is just that, a case of big hook worms in the health system.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-23285</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a shame, there is this forum for GP&#039;s and doctors to talk about the problems in the health system and yet there is not the input needed. 
Only one doctor says all the healthcare agencies/bodies  such as ACC, DHB,NHB and  multiple &quot;trusts&quot; eat up the healthcare dollar (and so NZ Gp&#039;s get less money than the UK). 
Surely more than one doctor in NZ wants to see the problems of the corruption with  money sucking out of the of healthcare.
 Is it OK to not have the autonomy. 
Is the changed role of a doctor accepted.
I am sad to see you all happy/compliant  with the health system. 
Only I must want see that to solve the problems a start would be to eliminate ACC, DHB&#039;s, PHO&#039;s , HDC ,the bogus trusts, excess bueaurosplats, the feed australia program and the NHB.
I have no sympathy for doctors salaries, when doctors cared more about their patients they would treat their ailments for what that person could pay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a shame, there is this forum for GP&#8217;s and doctors to talk about the problems in the health system and yet there is not the input needed.<br />
Only one doctor says all the healthcare agencies/bodies  such as ACC, DHB,NHB and  multiple &#8220;trusts&#8221; eat up the healthcare dollar (and so NZ Gp&#8217;s get less money than the UK).<br />
Surely more than one doctor in NZ wants to see the problems of the corruption with  money sucking out of the of healthcare.<br />
 Is it OK to not have the autonomy.<br />
Is the changed role of a doctor accepted.<br />
I am sad to see you all happy/compliant  with the health system.<br />
Only I must want see that to solve the problems a start would be to eliminate ACC, DHB&#8217;s, PHO&#8217;s , HDC ,the bogus trusts, excess bueaurosplats, the feed australia program and the NHB.<br />
I have no sympathy for doctors salaries, when doctors cared more about their patients they would treat their ailments for what that person could pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-23077</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe greed could be the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe greed could be the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: JockM</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-22807</link>
		<dc:creator>JockM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 05:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Medical work force issues have been a political football AND a sweep them under the carpet problem for at least 25 years. I first came to New Zealand as a GP 27 years ago. There was no true work-force planning then, and there isn&#039;t now. (Contrast that with the UK where GP manpower control was extensive) I made enquiries at the time, not one organisation seemed able to respond to my queries with any sensible answer. Of course, the neoliberal and market driven reforms of this country straddle this time, I was told that the market, under the reforms of the 1990&#039;s National Government would deal with this!!! The blame for the continuing problem lies pretty well right though the health system, including GPs themselves. NZ has depended for so many years on importing GPs, mainly from the UK, but also South Africa and now from many other parts of the world. Immigrant GPs often come here ill prepared for the semi-chaotic health organisation of this country. UK immigrants in particular will find, as I have, that they end up getting paid much less than in the UK, perhaps working a little less hard, true, and ending up retiring with little or no pension. I calculate my move to NZ has cost me at least $500,000 in reduced income and perhaps $500,000 in index linked pension entitlements. NZ trained graduates have much better understanding of this, they either leave the country, or enter a central city/suburban practice, where conditions are reasonable, cover is available and financial rewards are highest. GPs in country towns, however, earn much less, work much longer hours and are much more stressed. It&#039;s no wonder NZ has difficulty filling GP positions, and the next ten years are going to prove really troublesome, as the average age of GPs throughout the country is approaching 50. But NZ GP&#039;s must share the blame as they have proved to be very intransigent in agreeing to any sort of controls on practice here. The UK solved this intransigence by making sure that GPs remuneration was adequate recompense for the loss of independence. 

But the problems of the GP workforce is reflected in many other aspects of life here, the fact, for instance, that politicians can&#039;t even agree a strategy for pensions is plain crazy. I&#039;ve been a baby-boomer all my life, politicians their advisors have had at least 50 years to make sure that my generation will not be a problem for society, but apparently, for politicians, even 50 years is not long enough notice to come up with a cross-party, generally agreed policy. 

Primary health care in NZ is a mess, that it works at all is a tribute to the hard work and dedication of the professionals who work in the health system. . Midwifery services hived off in a very political take over, thanks to Helen Clark, the Community Card System, expensive to run and of limited if any benefit, the ACC adding it&#039;s spoon to stir the mixture, political short-termism and dogma - for instance the National Party ruinous reforms of the 1990&#039;s, a far too high fee structure for GPs which is a real impediment for the poorer population to get help, fees in primary health, but not for secondary, which creates problems for ED departments around the country, fragmentation of many bodies, Maori, charitable, trusts, DHB, the beginnings of corporate ownership etc. etc. 

I don&#039;t know the answer, though. There certainly won&#039;t be any simple one. Some suggestions to get on with

PHOs and DHBs need to be rationalised.
Salaried GPs, with paid holiday leave, paid locums, paid study time, government owned premises and the promise of an adequate pension would attract a lot of younger GPs who will see some security in such arrangements. 
Move fee-earning GPs to a full capitation system, with locums/holidays/pension entitlements, 
Scrap the Community Card System
All GP consultations to be at minimal (token cost) and free in certain areas. 
Much greater use of nurse practitioners. 
Re-integration of maternity care throughout the country. 

All this to be paid for by an increase of general tax revenue, I would favour an increase in income tax, a wealth tax, inheritance tax and a two-tier GST system, eg essential goods and services say 12.5% and luxury items (cars, watches, jewellery, travel, entertainment) a 25% GST), others can argue about the details. I look at it this way, an inefficient, fee for service, uncoordinated service, is costing this country hugely, nobody wants to pay tax, I know, but in fact, the country as a whole would likely gain financially and our health, particularly of the lower deciles, would massively improve. .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medical work force issues have been a political football AND a sweep them under the carpet problem for at least 25 years. I first came to New Zealand as a GP 27 years ago. There was no true work-force planning then, and there isn&#8217;t now. (Contrast that with the UK where GP manpower control was extensive) I made enquiries at the time, not one organisation seemed able to respond to my queries with any sensible answer. Of course, the neoliberal and market driven reforms of this country straddle this time, I was told that the market, under the reforms of the 1990&#8242;s National Government would deal with this!!! The blame for the continuing problem lies pretty well right though the health system, including GPs themselves. NZ has depended for so many years on importing GPs, mainly from the UK, but also South Africa and now from many other parts of the world. Immigrant GPs often come here ill prepared for the semi-chaotic health organisation of this country. UK immigrants in particular will find, as I have, that they end up getting paid much less than in the UK, perhaps working a little less hard, true, and ending up retiring with little or no pension. I calculate my move to NZ has cost me at least $500,000 in reduced income and perhaps $500,000 in index linked pension entitlements. NZ trained graduates have much better understanding of this, they either leave the country, or enter a central city/suburban practice, where conditions are reasonable, cover is available and financial rewards are highest. GPs in country towns, however, earn much less, work much longer hours and are much more stressed. It&#8217;s no wonder NZ has difficulty filling GP positions, and the next ten years are going to prove really troublesome, as the average age of GPs throughout the country is approaching 50. But NZ GP&#8217;s must share the blame as they have proved to be very intransigent in agreeing to any sort of controls on practice here. The UK solved this intransigence by making sure that GPs remuneration was adequate recompense for the loss of independence. </p>
<p>But the problems of the GP workforce is reflected in many other aspects of life here, the fact, for instance, that politicians can&#8217;t even agree a strategy for pensions is plain crazy. I&#8217;ve been a baby-boomer all my life, politicians their advisors have had at least 50 years to make sure that my generation will not be a problem for society, but apparently, for politicians, even 50 years is not long enough notice to come up with a cross-party, generally agreed policy. </p>
<p>Primary health care in NZ is a mess, that it works at all is a tribute to the hard work and dedication of the professionals who work in the health system. . Midwifery services hived off in a very political take over, thanks to Helen Clark, the Community Card System, expensive to run and of limited if any benefit, the ACC adding it&#8217;s spoon to stir the mixture, political short-termism and dogma &#8211; for instance the National Party ruinous reforms of the 1990&#8242;s, a far too high fee structure for GPs which is a real impediment for the poorer population to get help, fees in primary health, but not for secondary, which creates problems for ED departments around the country, fragmentation of many bodies, Maori, charitable, trusts, DHB, the beginnings of corporate ownership etc. etc. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the answer, though. There certainly won&#8217;t be any simple one. Some suggestions to get on with</p>
<p>PHOs and DHBs need to be rationalised.<br />
Salaried GPs, with paid holiday leave, paid locums, paid study time, government owned premises and the promise of an adequate pension would attract a lot of younger GPs who will see some security in such arrangements.<br />
Move fee-earning GPs to a full capitation system, with locums/holidays/pension entitlements,<br />
Scrap the Community Card System<br />
All GP consultations to be at minimal (token cost) and free in certain areas.<br />
Much greater use of nurse practitioners.<br />
Re-integration of maternity care throughout the country. </p>
<p>All this to be paid for by an increase of general tax revenue, I would favour an increase in income tax, a wealth tax, inheritance tax and a two-tier GST system, eg essential goods and services say 12.5% and luxury items (cars, watches, jewellery, travel, entertainment) a 25% GST), others can argue about the details. I look at it this way, an inefficient, fee for service, uncoordinated service, is costing this country hugely, nobody wants to pay tax, I know, but in fact, the country as a whole would likely gain financially and our health, particularly of the lower deciles, would massively improve. .</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-22737</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 05:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who owns the PHO&#039;s.
 
 The whole medical system in crisis has just developed  with a stronger and more intensive focus on money. Meanwhile in the  dark DHB bat caves  corrupt usage of public funds increased with no accountability thrives.

 The DHB&#039;s( in my opinion and through first hand experience) have cultivated an extremely inhuman way for the clinicians  to view some of their patients. In reality we have no medico legal system in place ( the HDC does not function and frequently   supports the violation of patients rights with their &quot;toilet paper&quot; responses and expensive lieawyer ) .
Working with the greedsters,  many providers have lost sight of even the basic responsibility to provide appropriate medical services for patients, others cannot get funding for patients care or medical needs and do not rock the DHB gravy boat.
I am not saying ALL GP&#039;s obey the DHB&amp;PHO profit mantra, but when the corruption and greed  is stacked so high to the top it takes a courageous GP (and a real doctor) to move against profit mongers .As more and more doctors get f&#039;d in the A maybe more will see how wrong things are and want a real change.

People often wonder how the doctors in Germany could have done such terrible undoctorly things, well we can see they felt pressure to do wrong and did it . The pressure  today is not fear for ones life, but a hypnotized state of apathy towards patients and fear of the HDC/govt scape goating them if they speak out.

At the same time the hopes of NZ youth to gain independence are crushed on a reduced wage which is even under min wage, the GP&#039;s get a salary increase to secure their unquestioning loyalty to the profit mongers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who owns the PHO&#8217;s.</p>
<p> The whole medical system in crisis has just developed  with a stronger and more intensive focus on money. Meanwhile in the  dark DHB bat caves  corrupt usage of public funds increased with no accountability thrives.</p>
<p> The DHB&#8217;s( in my opinion and through first hand experience) have cultivated an extremely inhuman way for the clinicians  to view some of their patients. In reality we have no medico legal system in place ( the HDC does not function and frequently   supports the violation of patients rights with their &#8220;toilet paper&#8221; responses and expensive lieawyer ) .<br />
Working with the greedsters,  many providers have lost sight of even the basic responsibility to provide appropriate medical services for patients, others cannot get funding for patients care or medical needs and do not rock the DHB gravy boat.<br />
I am not saying ALL GP&#8217;s obey the DHB&amp;PHO profit mantra, but when the corruption and greed  is stacked so high to the top it takes a courageous GP (and a real doctor) to move against profit mongers .As more and more doctors get f&#8217;d in the A maybe more will see how wrong things are and want a real change.</p>
<p>People often wonder how the doctors in Germany could have done such terrible undoctorly things, well we can see they felt pressure to do wrong and did it . The pressure  today is not fear for ones life, but a hypnotized state of apathy towards patients and fear of the HDC/govt scape goating them if they speak out.</p>
<p>At the same time the hopes of NZ youth to gain independence are crushed on a reduced wage which is even under min wage, the GP&#8217;s get a salary increase to secure their unquestioning loyalty to the profit mongers.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-22719</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Napier/Hastings Area as everywhere, there are GPs and gps. Some GPs are very good and thorough, others verge on incompetent.

Getting onto the books of a GP with a good reputation is difficult. Most have closed their books and have a waiting list. There is always room on the books of the gps who are no good, have a bad reputation or are just plain obnoxious to their patients (sorry, I mean &#039;clients&#039;).

The good news is that we are getting some newer GPs from overseas who are smart, young and treat their patients well. The downside is that some of the Gps imported from overseas are the opposite but have not yet got a reputation locally to prevent patients from going on their books. 

The lesson is to ask around and be prepared to do your homework before you move house. Be prepared to change doctors if you have problems. Once you have found a good GP, *only see that GP*. Don&#039;t give into the pressure put on patients (I mean &#039;clients&#039;) at medical centres to see &#039;any old doctor&#039;. That causes loss of continuity of care. Locums *do not read the files of those they are seeing* and spend most of the consult taking history and ordering tests that have already been done. These visits are often wastes of time and money for all concerned.

Of course you could go to a Gp outside of the PHO, but it&#039;s $60 a time to see them whereas the PHO fee for 15 minutes is $28.

Other weaknesses in the HBDHB system: the slow processing of test results with increasing delays in result delivery and increasing difficulty (almost an antagonism) in communications between pharmacies and Medical Centres (they still use fax machines rather than email!). The nationwide (and decades long) problem of prescription collections being tied to one pharmacy continues as a connected medical/pharmaceutical database remains in the &#039;too hard&#039; basket.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Napier/Hastings Area as everywhere, there are GPs and gps. Some GPs are very good and thorough, others verge on incompetent.</p>
<p>Getting onto the books of a GP with a good reputation is difficult. Most have closed their books and have a waiting list. There is always room on the books of the gps who are no good, have a bad reputation or are just plain obnoxious to their patients (sorry, I mean &#8216;clients&#8217;).</p>
<p>The good news is that we are getting some newer GPs from overseas who are smart, young and treat their patients well. The downside is that some of the Gps imported from overseas are the opposite but have not yet got a reputation locally to prevent patients from going on their books. </p>
<p>The lesson is to ask around and be prepared to do your homework before you move house. Be prepared to change doctors if you have problems. Once you have found a good GP, *only see that GP*. Don&#8217;t give into the pressure put on patients (I mean &#8216;clients&#8217;) at medical centres to see &#8216;any old doctor&#8217;. That causes loss of continuity of care. Locums *do not read the files of those they are seeing* and spend most of the consult taking history and ordering tests that have already been done. These visits are often wastes of time and money for all concerned.</p>
<p>Of course you could go to a Gp outside of the PHO, but it&#8217;s $60 a time to see them whereas the PHO fee for 15 minutes is $28.</p>
<p>Other weaknesses in the HBDHB system: the slow processing of test results with increasing delays in result delivery and increasing difficulty (almost an antagonism) in communications between pharmacies and Medical Centres (they still use fax machines rather than email!). The nationwide (and decades long) problem of prescription collections being tied to one pharmacy continues as a connected medical/pharmaceutical database remains in the &#8216;too hard&#8217; basket.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-22487</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;At a wider level, New Zealand’s health strategy is supposed to be based on primary (ie GP-based) care, and on its integration with other health services – although for obvious reasons, the primary care system seems driven as much by the profit margins of the providers, as by patient need.&quot; - what obvious reasons are those, for the ignorant of us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At a wider level, New Zealand’s health strategy is supposed to be based on primary (ie GP-based) care, and on its integration with other health services – although for obvious reasons, the primary care system seems driven as much by the profit margins of the providers, as by patient need.&#8221; &#8211; what obvious reasons are those, for the ignorant of us?</p>
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		<title>By: Vincristine</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-22284</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GP workforce is a huge potential problem.  The average GP is well into his or her 50s now. Many are at retirement age. Many are concerned with how on earth they will exit GP in the next few years, as there is no new workforce of GPs wanting to take on their patients.  There is a crisis in Horowhenua, I recently worked there.  Levin is hugely underdoctored with hundreds of people being unable to enrol with a GP.  What is worse is the high turnover of locums needed at high cost to keep rural practices limping along.  There is no light at the end of the tunnel for aging practitioners or rural practices.  The West Coast is vastly underdoctored and precarious. Many of our rural practices are sole practices, and Medical assurance wont lend money to buy a sole rural practice anymore. 

There certainly is a crisis.  GP training is not well funded, doctors take a big loss in income and conditions to train as GPs.  They often have young families and mortgages at the time to consider GP training, and just cannot afford the financial losses to become a GP in an increasingly depressed workforce.  This year HW Aotearoa are trumpeting the &#039;increased funding&#039; for GP trainees, which is a net loss in conditions or money for any doctor working as a hospital registrat in 2012.  I know doctors who will continue working as GPs untrained, because they cannot afford the loss in income to become a GP trainee.

The workforce of 50 somethings are under increasing pressure of devolution of services from secondary to primary care.  MOH have all sorts of great ideas for things that GPs can take over from them, minor surgery, colonscopies, cancer treatment.  They also want medical students at all stages trained mroe in prmary care AND all the advanced trainees is hospital specialities are to be required to train in primary care.  How does a diminishing workforce manage all of this with no increase in funding, or space and facilities?  Doctors who want to retired are selling their practices to foreign companies like Peak Primary
- so NZ health $ creating a profit for offshore agents.  South health and Southern Cross also getting on the the act of buying up practices. But who will work them?

There is a huge crisis in Primary Care in NZ, and its going to get worse very soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GP workforce is a huge potential problem.  The average GP is well into his or her 50s now. Many are at retirement age. Many are concerned with how on earth they will exit GP in the next few years, as there is no new workforce of GPs wanting to take on their patients.  There is a crisis in Horowhenua, I recently worked there.  Levin is hugely underdoctored with hundreds of people being unable to enrol with a GP.  What is worse is the high turnover of locums needed at high cost to keep rural practices limping along.  There is no light at the end of the tunnel for aging practitioners or rural practices.  The West Coast is vastly underdoctored and precarious. Many of our rural practices are sole practices, and Medical assurance wont lend money to buy a sole rural practice anymore. </p>
<p>There certainly is a crisis.  GP training is not well funded, doctors take a big loss in income and conditions to train as GPs.  They often have young families and mortgages at the time to consider GP training, and just cannot afford the financial losses to become a GP in an increasingly depressed workforce.  This year HW Aotearoa are trumpeting the &#8216;increased funding&#8217; for GP trainees, which is a net loss in conditions or money for any doctor working as a hospital registrat in 2012.  I know doctors who will continue working as GPs untrained, because they cannot afford the loss in income to become a GP trainee.</p>
<p>The workforce of 50 somethings are under increasing pressure of devolution of services from secondary to primary care.  MOH have all sorts of great ideas for things that GPs can take over from them, minor surgery, colonscopies, cancer treatment.  They also want medical students at all stages trained mroe in prmary care AND all the advanced trainees is hospital specialities are to be required to train in primary care.  How does a diminishing workforce manage all of this with no increase in funding, or space and facilities?  Doctors who want to retired are selling their practices to foreign companies like Peak Primary<br />
- so NZ health $ creating a profit for offshore agents.  South health and Southern Cross also getting on the the act of buying up practices. But who will work them?</p>
<p>There is a huge crisis in Primary Care in NZ, and its going to get worse very soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-21766</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s worse in Tairawhiti than they admit. A situation ongoing for at least a few years is not &quot;temporary&quot;. Once enrolled with a centre where we had no designated GP, we could not get in to other centres to get a dedicated GP (my daughter has a chronic health condition, we need continuity of care),although they would accept new patients from out of Gisborne. A new mega centre run on a business model has just opened, easing the situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worse in Tairawhiti than they admit. A situation ongoing for at least a few years is not &#8220;temporary&#8221;. Once enrolled with a centre where we had no designated GP, we could not get in to other centres to get a dedicated GP (my daughter has a chronic health condition, we need continuity of care),although they would accept new patients from out of Gisborne. A new mega centre run on a business model has just opened, easing the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-21578</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Gordon, I only mentioned it  incase I caused confusion by my mentioning of another Newtown primary care practice in my comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Gordon, I only mentioned it  incase I caused confusion by my mentioning of another Newtown primary care practice in my comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Campbell</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-21546</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would also like to make it clear that there was no confusion - actual or implied - in my article between the Newtown Medical Centre and the Newtown Union Health Service. The ability of people in the same catchment area to access quality healthcare is an issue however - although in these two instances, the reasons differ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to make it clear that there was no confusion &#8211; actual or implied &#8211; in my article between the Newtown Medical Centre and the Newtown Union Health Service. The ability of people in the same catchment area to access quality healthcare is an issue however &#8211; although in these two instances, the reasons differ.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-21544</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Wellingtonian published an article &quot;Health cuts bite&quot; it was about the CCDHB&#039;s recent $5.6 million dollar funding cuts. Hard hit was  Newtown Union Health Services and  a debate summary between Dr Gray and the CCDHB was published.  In this you could see how the CCDHB did not care  that the NUHS was providing the need of highly specialist care,  specialist care  that is  the CCDHB&#039;s obligation to fund. 

*The  NUHS is not to be confused with the Newtown medical centre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wellingtonian published an article &#8220;Health cuts bite&#8221; it was about the CCDHB&#8217;s recent $5.6 million dollar funding cuts. Hard hit was  Newtown Union Health Services and  a debate summary between Dr Gray and the CCDHB was published.  In this you could see how the CCDHB did not care  that the NUHS was providing the need of highly specialist care,  specialist care  that is  the CCDHB&#8217;s obligation to fund. </p>
<p>*The  NUHS is not to be confused with the Newtown medical centre.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/when-local-gps-are-a-closed-book/comment-page-1/#comment-21534</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its how the DHB&#039;s do things, they pass the buck and pretend the provision of  specialist health care is someone else&#039;s ( a PHO&#039;s/gp&#039;s) obligation. 
 

What about  asking questions to the 
Chair of the PHO Performance Programme Governance Group 
Helen Mason via the PHO Performance Programme Manager 
Serena.Curtis@dhbsharedservices.health.nz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its how the DHB&#8217;s do things, they pass the buck and pretend the provision of  specialist health care is someone else&#8217;s ( a PHO&#8217;s/gp&#8217;s) obligation. </p>
<p>What about  asking questions to the<br />
Chair of the PHO Performance Programme Governance Group<br />
Helen Mason via the PHO Performance Programme Manager<br />
<a href="mailto:Serena.Curtis@dhbsharedservices.health.nz">Serena.Curtis@dhbsharedservices.health.nz</a></p>
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