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		<title>By: tinuviel</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21790</link>
		<dc:creator>tinuviel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to say, I worked on Power Rangers for 6 years, and the contract I signed every season was the crew equivalent of that. The fundamental fairness of the contract is one issue, but I don&#039;t know if you can clearly link it to this particular producer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I worked on Power Rangers for 6 years, and the contract I signed every season was the crew equivalent of that. The fundamental fairness of the contract is one issue, but I don&#8217;t know if you can clearly link it to this particular producer.</p>
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		<title>By: Skoll</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21788</link>
		<dc:creator>Skoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re comment # 8 A union attempts to get a meeting with a powerful employer ( who can arrange urgent private meetings with the nations Prime Minister, and is powerfully connected internationally within the industry they work in ) and on Labour Day ( no less ) other workers from a different part of that industry march in support of the employer and you think it&#039;s the union&#039;s fault that workers rights were diminished? - you leave me breathless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re comment # 8 A union attempts to get a meeting with a powerful employer ( who can arrange urgent private meetings with the nations Prime Minister, and is powerfully connected internationally within the industry they work in ) and on Labour Day ( no less ) other workers from a different part of that industry march in support of the employer and you think it&#8217;s the union&#8217;s fault that workers rights were diminished? &#8211; you leave me breathless.</p>
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		<title>By: crew member</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21778</link>
		<dc:creator>crew member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking as a crew member working on Power Rangers this season I find the statement &quot;there are concerns that many of the higher paid, high tech positions on the production are going to foreigners, and not to New Zealanders&quot; to be rather mystifying... the 5 core cast aside, there are 3 foreigners working on a full time crew of 180. All politics aside we are all grateful to Saben for continuing to film Power Rangers in New Zealand and for providing us and our families with the means to survive during a quiet summer. I am sure that the local businesses are equally thankful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a crew member working on Power Rangers this season I find the statement &#8220;there are concerns that many of the higher paid, high tech positions on the production are going to foreigners, and not to New Zealanders&#8221; to be rather mystifying&#8230; the 5 core cast aside, there are 3 foreigners working on a full time crew of 180. All politics aside we are all grateful to Saben for continuing to film Power Rangers in New Zealand and for providing us and our families with the means to survive during a quiet summer. I am sure that the local businesses are equally thankful.</p>
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		<title>By: Baz</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21777</link>
		<dc:creator>Baz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The average taxpayer pays $8,000 per year in tax; this means the wealth of 375 taxpayers was transferred to Power Rangers every year from 2005 to 2010. The lesson is simple: you don&#039;t need to ask 375 people to pay you $8000 per year when you already have a man in government that will do it for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average taxpayer pays $8,000 per year in tax; this means the wealth of 375 taxpayers was transferred to Power Rangers every year from 2005 to 2010. The lesson is simple: you don&#8217;t need to ask 375 people to pay you $8000 per year when you already have a man in government that will do it for you.</p>
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		<title>By: gmdunning</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21718</link>
		<dc:creator>gmdunning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That fact that new zealander workers are being put into a situation of non New Zealand union conditions by american film companies and the  new zealand govt accepting hollywood, to operate on those conditions,as the contractal basis of filming here with ALL rewards for &quot;HOLLYWOOD&#039; THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO REPLACE THIS GOVERNMENT THE FACT THAT THE PRIME MINISTER,AND NOW THE JUSTICE MINISTER IS GOING TO THE USA WITHOUT BIAS&quot;I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS BULLSHI&quot; I HAVE BEEN A NATIONAL VOTER IN THE PAST,AND MAY HAVE BEEN AGAIN, NOT NOW  &quot;TOO MUCH&quot; AS  THE PRIME MINISTER HAS SPENT HOW MANY YEARS ? WORKING IN THE USA HAS PROPERTY IN HAWAII, HIS THING IS AN EGOTISTICAL TRIP AND NOTHING ELSE.BY THE WAY I HAVE NEVER IN THE PAST PLACED ANYTHING IN PAPERS OR INTERNET IM JUST P,SSSSSED WITH THIS GOVERNMENT AS AN EX MILITARY, EX EMPLOYER, AND RETIRED PERSON.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That fact that new zealander workers are being put into a situation of non New Zealand union conditions by american film companies and the  new zealand govt accepting hollywood, to operate on those conditions,as the contractal basis of filming here with ALL rewards for &#8220;HOLLYWOOD&#8217; THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO REPLACE THIS GOVERNMENT THE FACT THAT THE PRIME MINISTER,AND NOW THE JUSTICE MINISTER IS GOING TO THE USA WITHOUT BIAS&#8221;I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS BULLSHI&#8221; I HAVE BEEN A NATIONAL VOTER IN THE PAST,AND MAY HAVE BEEN AGAIN, NOT NOW  &#8220;TOO MUCH&#8221; AS  THE PRIME MINISTER HAS SPENT HOW MANY YEARS ? WORKING IN THE USA HAS PROPERTY IN HAWAII, HIS THING IS AN EGOTISTICAL TRIP AND NOTHING ELSE.BY THE WAY I HAVE NEVER IN THE PAST PLACED ANYTHING IN PAPERS OR INTERNET IM JUST P,SSSSSED WITH THIS GOVERNMENT AS AN EX MILITARY, EX EMPLOYER, AND RETIRED PERSON.</p>
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		<title>By: Emergence</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21697</link>
		<dc:creator>Emergence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK so change all the laws to unionise and structure all the employment arrangements to your satisfaction and watch a wonderful, lucrative, highly paid and enjoyable industry disappear.

These are not contracts for assembly line workers. If someone offered you a contract like that for your job then yes it would be weird and unacceptable, but you are not a performer. When a performer reaches a level where the value they add to the show is worthy of residuals and better conditions then they will be able to negotiate that through an agent. Otherwise they can either choose the contract or not, no one made them become an actor and just like any profession where there a many, many more hopefuls than winners, management set the terms.

The point you miss here is not the actors, but the other artists and workers who are not so much &quot;chasing the dream&quot; in the performing arts, but are grinding out rotomation or hammering sets day after day for years. They weren&#039;t chasing residuals or special treatment but were none the less denied the right to claim legitimate employee status as a result of the actors union attempting to take a production hostage.

And connecting the political motives of one producer to the conditions of the local contracts? Just smacks of muckraking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK so change all the laws to unionise and structure all the employment arrangements to your satisfaction and watch a wonderful, lucrative, highly paid and enjoyable industry disappear.</p>
<p>These are not contracts for assembly line workers. If someone offered you a contract like that for your job then yes it would be weird and unacceptable, but you are not a performer. When a performer reaches a level where the value they add to the show is worthy of residuals and better conditions then they will be able to negotiate that through an agent. Otherwise they can either choose the contract or not, no one made them become an actor and just like any profession where there a many, many more hopefuls than winners, management set the terms.</p>
<p>The point you miss here is not the actors, but the other artists and workers who are not so much &#8220;chasing the dream&#8221; in the performing arts, but are grinding out rotomation or hammering sets day after day for years. They weren&#8217;t chasing residuals or special treatment but were none the less denied the right to claim legitimate employee status as a result of the actors union attempting to take a production hostage.</p>
<p>And connecting the political motives of one producer to the conditions of the local contracts? Just smacks of muckraking.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21690</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The actors&#039; contract you quote is horrendous but sadly they&#039;ve been headed this way for the past 20 years (post the Employment Contracts Act) - I have TV contracts from the early 1990&#039;s with clauses virtually identical to some of those above.  With a weak union and the great majority of actors and actors&#039; agents terrified of rocking the boat the contracts have only grown worse.  Recent moves by our current (craven, duplicitous, traitorous…) government have now given such contractual-obscenities official blessing.  

As you&#039;ve indicated, really the only compensation we get is to laugh at the ludicrous grandiosity of the contract clauses (they can&#039;t take that away from us): 

&quot;Producer shall have the unlimited right to exhibit and exploit all works hereunder and audio and visual excerpts therefrom in all forms and mediums now known or hereafter devised or discovered throughout the world in perpetuity without any further amounts owing to Performer.&quot;

And yes, in order to add piquancy to the punchline, in many of the TV contracts I&#039;ve sighted &quot;the world&quot; is replaced with &quot;the known universe&quot;.  I used to quip that the only scenario the lawyers had let slip was the future discovery of time-travel and the possibility of selling, for instance, &quot;Hercules&quot; to the ancient Greeks and Romans.

Repugnant though it is, there should be no surprise that Key consistently aligns himself with the interests of millionaires and billionaires against NZ workers - everything in his history is congruent with that choice.  That he appears to be gleeful while trading away the working conditions of his subjects seems inexplicably grotesque until one remembers that as Prime Minister he is keeping his eye on the big picture - by greasing up to the moguls in Hollywood and Wellywood he&#039;s bought himself something a currency trader&#039;s wealth never could: proximity to coolness and a retirement package complete with dinner invites from film directors and celebrities.  Let&#039;s hope that retirement comes very soon.

Meanwhile, hot off the wire...

Press Release: The Office of the Prime Minister and the Hollywood Moguls Association

(For immediate release)

PM &quot;Very comfortable&quot;; Hollywood Moguls &quot;Surprised and Delighted&quot;

Prime Minister John Key today reported that he was &quot;very comfortable&quot; with the most recent tranche of financial and legislative concessions he has granted to Hollywood big-hitters in his ongoing attempts to lure them to New Zealand.  The Hollywood Moguls Association have in turn declared themselves &quot;surprised and delighted&quot; with the flexibility shown by New Zealand&#039;s Prime Minister.  &quot;We are surprised and delighted by the flexibility shown by Prime Minister Keys&quot; they said.  &quot;The flexibility shown is simply outstanding and we are heartened by Prime Minister Keys&#039; repeated assurances that he is very comfortable with the positions he has adopted on our behalf.  In all sincerity we can say that we have never before dealt with a world leader who has been so flexible and so comfortable with such a wide range of accommodating positions.&quot;

Ends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actors&#8217; contract you quote is horrendous but sadly they&#8217;ve been headed this way for the past 20 years (post the Employment Contracts Act) &#8211; I have TV contracts from the early 1990&#8242;s with clauses virtually identical to some of those above.  With a weak union and the great majority of actors and actors&#8217; agents terrified of rocking the boat the contracts have only grown worse.  Recent moves by our current (craven, duplicitous, traitorous…) government have now given such contractual-obscenities official blessing.  </p>
<p>As you&#8217;ve indicated, really the only compensation we get is to laugh at the ludicrous grandiosity of the contract clauses (they can&#8217;t take that away from us): </p>
<p>&#8220;Producer shall have the unlimited right to exhibit and exploit all works hereunder and audio and visual excerpts therefrom in all forms and mediums now known or hereafter devised or discovered throughout the world in perpetuity without any further amounts owing to Performer.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yes, in order to add piquancy to the punchline, in many of the TV contracts I&#8217;ve sighted &#8220;the world&#8221; is replaced with &#8220;the known universe&#8221;.  I used to quip that the only scenario the lawyers had let slip was the future discovery of time-travel and the possibility of selling, for instance, &#8220;Hercules&#8221; to the ancient Greeks and Romans.</p>
<p>Repugnant though it is, there should be no surprise that Key consistently aligns himself with the interests of millionaires and billionaires against NZ workers &#8211; everything in his history is congruent with that choice.  That he appears to be gleeful while trading away the working conditions of his subjects seems inexplicably grotesque until one remembers that as Prime Minister he is keeping his eye on the big picture &#8211; by greasing up to the moguls in Hollywood and Wellywood he&#8217;s bought himself something a currency trader&#8217;s wealth never could: proximity to coolness and a retirement package complete with dinner invites from film directors and celebrities.  Let&#8217;s hope that retirement comes very soon.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, hot off the wire&#8230;</p>
<p>Press Release: The Office of the Prime Minister and the Hollywood Moguls Association</p>
<p>(For immediate release)</p>
<p>PM &#8220;Very comfortable&#8221;; Hollywood Moguls &#8220;Surprised and Delighted&#8221;</p>
<p>Prime Minister John Key today reported that he was &#8220;very comfortable&#8221; with the most recent tranche of financial and legislative concessions he has granted to Hollywood big-hitters in his ongoing attempts to lure them to New Zealand.  The Hollywood Moguls Association have in turn declared themselves &#8220;surprised and delighted&#8221; with the flexibility shown by New Zealand&#8217;s Prime Minister.  &#8220;We are surprised and delighted by the flexibility shown by Prime Minister Keys&#8221; they said.  &#8220;The flexibility shown is simply outstanding and we are heartened by Prime Minister Keys&#8217; repeated assurances that he is very comfortable with the positions he has adopted on our behalf.  In all sincerity we can say that we have never before dealt with a world leader who has been so flexible and so comfortable with such a wide range of accommodating positions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail Bakhtin</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21687</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail Bakhtin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[clairbear: I&#039;ve been there and done that. 

You too will have to one day face the frailties of health, age, and market whims. 

The invulnerability of youth and inexperience does not last forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clairbear: I&#8217;ve been there and done that. </p>
<p>You too will have to one day face the frailties of health, age, and market whims. </p>
<p>The invulnerability of youth and inexperience does not last forever.</p>
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		<title>By: kea lover</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21660</link>
		<dc:creator>kea lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 07:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sack the nats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sack the nats.</p>
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		<title>By: clairbear</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21637</link>
		<dc:creator>clairbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a contract consultant - I am in favour of a situation where if I decide to be in business for myself that is what I am and if I  decide to be an employee that is what I am - I can choose either side but what I will not choose is to be one for a while and when it suits me become the other and have a court case to decide my course of action. I face situations where a government may retrospectively decide at their whim that I am in fact an employee and then decide that any tax arrangements I may have used are null and void and then they say that I have not paid enough tax and hit me with crippling penalties. Further because it is in a different part of legislation I am still not eligible for all the benefits an employee would have had. So yes all I want is for a law that says if you decide to be in business for yourself then be that and everyone will respect that. If you decide to be an employee do that and everyone will respect that. If you decide on a career where you are expected to be in business for yourself and that is what you want to do - then be in business for yourself. If you want to be in a business where you need to be an employee then be that - It is completely up to you. It is all this retrospective stuff one either side that causes the problems whether someone deems you an employee when you are not or when you decide it is to your benefit to be an employee when you are not. If you find the options on offer are not good enough - choose something else.  Further if you are in business for yourself - don&#039;t try playing being a union with other business because their are laws against that. Open your eyes - learn what you are choosing and go for it it can be really rewarding. There have been times when I have been advised the project has been closed at 0900 and please be out by 1200 that day when my pay will stop. Its a great life and in general being your own boss and having your own choice is great - sometimes not so great - choose and don&#039;t whine about it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a contract consultant &#8211; I am in favour of a situation where if I decide to be in business for myself that is what I am and if I  decide to be an employee that is what I am &#8211; I can choose either side but what I will not choose is to be one for a while and when it suits me become the other and have a court case to decide my course of action. I face situations where a government may retrospectively decide at their whim that I am in fact an employee and then decide that any tax arrangements I may have used are null and void and then they say that I have not paid enough tax and hit me with crippling penalties. Further because it is in a different part of legislation I am still not eligible for all the benefits an employee would have had. So yes all I want is for a law that says if you decide to be in business for yourself then be that and everyone will respect that. If you decide to be an employee do that and everyone will respect that. If you decide on a career where you are expected to be in business for yourself and that is what you want to do &#8211; then be in business for yourself. If you want to be in a business where you need to be an employee then be that &#8211; It is completely up to you. It is all this retrospective stuff one either side that causes the problems whether someone deems you an employee when you are not or when you decide it is to your benefit to be an employee when you are not. If you find the options on offer are not good enough &#8211; choose something else.  Further if you are in business for yourself &#8211; don&#8217;t try playing being a union with other business because their are laws against that. Open your eyes &#8211; learn what you are choosing and go for it it can be really rewarding. There have been times when I have been advised the project has been closed at 0900 and please be out by 1200 that day when my pay will stop. Its a great life and in general being your own boss and having your own choice is great &#8211; sometimes not so great &#8211; choose and don&#8217;t whine about it</p>
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		<title>By: drunk</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21608</link>
		<dc:creator>drunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent description of how the powerful ruling elite in our current societal structure treat both their &#039;allies&#039; and &#039;enemies&#039;. Both with the same disgraceful, callous hatred.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent description of how the powerful ruling elite in our current societal structure treat both their &#8216;allies&#8217; and &#8216;enemies&#8217;. Both with the same disgraceful, callous hatred.</p>
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		<title>By: Jum</title>
		<link>http://werewolf.co.nz/2012/10/dealing-with-mistah-hollywood/comment-page-1/#comment-21597</link>
		<dc:creator>Jum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After Key&#039;s treatment of the Kiwi Actors I decided I would not attend any cinema screening of The Hobbit.  I will see it, when it&#039;s on the DVD shelves at a $1 for eight days.  I&#039;m sure it will be wonderful, but I cannot stomach being a part of a crime of reducing workers to nothing just so John Key can achieve his workload for his American bosses.   He has already deliberately weakened New Zealand&#039;s ability to withstand the foreign onslaught against our human, environmental and economic treasures.  

Kiwis don&#039;t seem to realise that John Key is not here for the benefit of New Zealand and/or New Zealanders; once Kiwis get that simple point any past, present and future actions by Key will begin to make sense.  He doesn&#039;t want workers to get manufacturing jobs; he doesn&#039;t want public transport to be available for those who need it.  He wants Kiwis to be indebted and weak.  He has achieved both aims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Key&#8217;s treatment of the Kiwi Actors I decided I would not attend any cinema screening of The Hobbit.  I will see it, when it&#8217;s on the DVD shelves at a $1 for eight days.  I&#8217;m sure it will be wonderful, but I cannot stomach being a part of a crime of reducing workers to nothing just so John Key can achieve his workload for his American bosses.   He has already deliberately weakened New Zealand&#8217;s ability to withstand the foreign onslaught against our human, environmental and economic treasures.  </p>
<p>Kiwis don&#8217;t seem to realise that John Key is not here for the benefit of New Zealand and/or New Zealanders; once Kiwis get that simple point any past, present and future actions by Key will begin to make sense.  He doesn&#8217;t want workers to get manufacturing jobs; he doesn&#8217;t want public transport to be available for those who need it.  He wants Kiwis to be indebted and weak.  He has achieved both aims.</p>
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		<title>By: Controversial Tidbits in MegaForce Contract - Morphin&#039; Legacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Controversial Tidbits in MegaForce Contract - Morphin&#039; Legacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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